Curse

Mr Joshua Strange · Jul 09, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

Dervish/Necromancer

Earth Prayers: 12+3+1
Scythe Mastery: 9+1
Death Magic: 8
Mysticism: 8

[Armor of Sanctity][Reap Impurities][Tainted Flesh][Mystic Corruption][Mystic Regeneration][Veil of Thorns][Withering Aura][Resurrection Signet]

Basically you apply tainted flesh and Armor of Sanctity, then start causing conditions. Heal yourself with Reap Impurities and Mystic Regeneration.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:D/..._Armor_Dervish

That's the complete description. I wrote that article and it's getting no feedback there, so I decided to post it here.

cellardweller · Jul 09, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Joshua Strange

Dervish/Necromancer

Earth Prayers: 12+3+1
Scythe Mastery: 9+1
Death Magic: 8
Mysticism: 8

[Armor of Sanctity][Reap Impurities][Tainted Flesh][Mystic Corruption][Mystic Regeneration][Veil of Thorns][Withering Aura][Resurrection Signet]

Basically you apply tainted flesh and Armor of Sanctity, then start causing conditions. Heal yourself with Reap Impurities and Mystic Regeneration.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:D/..._Armor_Dervish

That's the complete description. I wrote that article and it's getting no feedback there, so I decided to post it here.

I'm assuming this is a low level PvP build?
In any case, it needs more damage... attempting to stick with your original "extened conditions" theme I'd go with:
[pious assault][Reap Impurities][Virulence][Mystic Corruption][Heart of Fury][Grenth's fingers][Withering Aura][Resurrection Signet]
Scythe Mastery: 12+1+1
Death Magic: 9
Mysticism: 8+1
Wind: 8+1

Heart of Fury->Grenth's fingers->enchanted haste->pious->Virulence->Reap and pray they don't have restore or mend condition

It really needs another scythe attack.

Mr Joshua Strange · Jul 09, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05

I use it in PvE; I'm not much of a PvP person myself.

Axel Zinfandel · Jul 09, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Disease isn't a great enough condition to use [Tainted Flesh]. You can easily simulate the same conjoined affect with [Veil of Thorns], which allows you to take [Wounding Strike].

Also, [mystic corruption] is nearly worthless when you can spam Wounding Strike to reapply it. Crippled condition will also be reapplied a lot. I would lose Mystic Corruption for another attack skill of sorts. You are a dervish, and you should be taking the scythe's insane damage dealing capabilities in main focus.

Ministry Of Peace · Jul 09, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30

In pve it is an interesting concept and will work most places in normal mode with a decent hero setup, however most places in hard mode, you will simply be dead before you have a chance to put up your enchantments and apply weakness to enough foes to make a difference. If you can find a way to incorporate a lot of daze/blind into this build, it would be a lot more effective. As it is, this build dedicates itself to doing something that is best done in small pieces throughout a well balanced team build, for example weakness (1 or 2 slots on a necro bar), burning (1 slot on a fire ele bar), cripple (not that useful in pve due to the speed enemies die), disease and poison are also not very effective.

This entire bar is completely outclassed by a standard ss necro in every way. That being said, I think it needs a lot more improvement before you submit it to wiki as a viable build.

cellardweller · Jul 09, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Joshua Strange

I use it in PvE; I'm not much of a PvP person myself.

I would advise against using a slot for extending conditions at all then - most conditions already last 8-15 seconds - any monster should be well and truely dead by that time.

If you're running with competent guildies or hench/heroes the following will do:
[wearying strike][crippling sweep][contagion][dark aura][signet of agony][foul feast][heart of fury][optional]
This will give you targetted deep wound and cripple, nearby bleeding and weakness (plus whatever the bad guys throw at you) and adjacent fire without sacrificing too much dps.

If you're using PuG Monks, you'll need something that doesn't rely on competent healers:
[Wounding Strike][crippling sweep][reap impurities][withering aura][Armor of Sanctity][Mystic Regeneration][Heart of Fury][resurrection signet]

-Lotus- · Jul 09, 2008, 08:27 AM // 08:27

[tainted flesh] is a very bad idea unless you maintain it on your entire party.

Tyla · Jul 09, 2008, 12:40 PM // 12:40

^
Agree with above.

And not maxing out your Scythe Mastery is equally as bad.

joshuarodger · Jul 10, 2008, 03:12 PM // 15:12

you really don't need earth prayers at 16. a few seconds less on Veil of thorns shouldn't make much difference since most mobs should be dead within 15 seconds or so anyway and a loss of 4 points of damage reduction from armor of sanctity shouldn't be that tough for a hero monk. 13 EP is the breakpoint for 4 pips of regen for MR so i would stick with that and lose the superior rune. that alone will make up for the loss of reduction from AoS. also mysticism should always be a multiple of 3 because those numbers are the breakpoints for the energy and health gain from your primary attribute. with all the enchantments in this build, that could definitely come in handy.

i think you could still kill stuff faster with a standard dervish build using 3 scythe skills and an IAS but it may be fun to change it up every now and then.

my attribute spread for this particular build would be something like
Earth Prayers: 11+1+1
Mysticism: 8+1
Scythe: 10+1
Death: 8

not really sure if that spread is possible and don't want to take the time to look it up. but something like that.

Bassu · Jul 10, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

I remember I used Tainted Flesh build for farming those wolves with Scandinavian names to get a new hammer skin. But farming sucks :<